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I Owner Comment:
None
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II Approval of Consent Agenda:
· Motion 11-2006 (#1) Motion to adopt the consent agenda items
as written including: approval of October Board meeting minutes, approval
of November Board agenda, approval of committee meeting minutes, and approval
of GM report. Colin / Toni Motion passes 7-0-0
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III Approval of Minutes:
· Consent agenda
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IV Announcements and Affirmations:
· Pages 51-53 of the packet are action items that should be returned
to Mark Reed's box by Dec. 13th.
o One of the items is to express interest in the CCMA conference.
o The other item is soliciting potential candidates for the board. Any help
you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
§ I would like to recommend that you contact anyone you write in as
a candidate so they are prepared when BDC calls them.
· I wanted to say that Mark's article in the December Thymes was
great.
· I received a call from Stahlbush saying that a board member called
them claiming that we were going to drop their product line due to a chemical
contained in their products. Please do not contact any distributors in this
fashion. It is highly inappropriate.
· I wanted to call everyone's attention to the motion tree. I wanted
to let everyone know that I am going to try to adhere to this structure
as much as possible.
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V Board Calendar and
Timeline
· No comments
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VI Questions/Comments
on Committee/Meeting Reports
Board Development Committee: No questions
Executive minutes: No questions
Finance minutes: No questions
Owner Relations: No questions
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VII L-5 Financial Condition
Report
Finance Manager, Dana Allen, was present along with Michele to answer questions
about this report.
· I don't feel like the interpretation on number 4 is adequate. There
is no definition of what an adequate ratio is.
· The response on what it is doesn't have anything to be measured
against.
The debt to equity ratio will always increase in periods of growth. The
thing to watch is if this is being actively managed and reduced. In 2005
the board had issues with the large amount of debt that we had. In response,
we used up a lot of our cash assets in order to reduce our debt. The danger
in having this number too low is that you are not actively growing. This
ratio is a continuum.
· If the board is not comfortable with the definition of the word
adequate, they can ask Michele to define this.
We can consult Marty to come up with an appropriate range.
· What is missing is an understanding of this ratio as it relates
to growth. It seems that the numbers are heading in the wrong direction.
· If Marty can come up with a range for us that would be very beneficial.
· We can choose to accept this report conditionally and have Michele
come up with a definition for item four.
o If we think that there is an issue with being out of compliance, we can
also reject the report and have Michele work on item four.
o It may be fair to say that this isn't an adequate interpretation.
· The only benchmark that is listed, we are not within.
I feel that since we have not previously listed a benchmark, we cannot find
this report out of compliance. It would be fair to clarify this statement
and go from there.
· What we need to do is rework the policy so that Michele can come
up with a more accurate interpretation. As long as there are no definitions
within the policies, we will continue to run into these exact same problems.
· On debt to equity, it may not be fair to compare FA to other stores
since we may be in completely different states of growth.
o Also, when calculating an average you must take out the outliers. The
fifty-three is skewing the average heavily.
A lot of the other stores have gone through their period of growth and are
now paying down their debt. I agree, we should focus more on the middle
people.
The problem is that, the ratio is always going to be contingent upon where
you are in you growth cycle. It will be very difficult to define an acceptable
range for our ratio.
· I feel that we should still try to establish a range. Also when
we are doing the comparison, we should definitely focus on similar co-ops.
· We will definitely consult with Marty to determine an adequate
range.
· I am wondering how you can possibly have a negative debt to equity
ratio. You cannot have negative debt. How do you get negative equity?
You're right. You can never have negative debt. If your retained earnings
are so bad that they eclipse your other equity, you can conceivably get
a negative equity.
o I still don't see how you can get the small negatives. As you approach
zero, the ratio should become enormous. Then when it becomes negative, you
should have a huge negative ratio.
· It is unlikely that we are going to make any progress on the debt
to equity ratio tonight. We should definitely prepare questions for Marty.
· I want to reiterate that the policy is fine. The GM has the leeway
to make whatever interpretation they choose. I feel that this interpretation
may not be adequate.
Motion 11-2006 (#2) Motion to accept the L-5 report with the exception
of item 4 pending a clearer definition of 'adequate' debt to equity ratio.
Discussion:
· I feel that the policy is flawed and that Michele's interpretation
was adequate.
Toni /Colin Motion passes 6-0-1
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VIII Review L-5
· If the policy governance committee would like to take on this
policy, I think we should also look at item 1. Deviate materially is pretty
fuzzy and not really useful.
· I would like to see the policy governance committee keep a running
list of things that the board takes issue with.
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IX Preview L-10
· I would like to talk about environmental protection in terms of
what has been done between now and the last time that this policy was reported
on.
· I have a question about number 8. I am interested in knowing how
you evaluate sustainability in products. I have seen produce from South
America and bottled water from Iceland. I am curious how these qualify as
sustainable products.
· I am interested in number 6. Nothing specific though.
· I would like you to find any word or phrases that we might find
vague and highlight them. It would help the policy governance committee
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X Answers to Finance Related
Questions Generated at the Board Retreat
· This is a summary of answers given to questions that were generated
at the retreat.
· I would like to comment that this was prepared in a very clear
fashion.
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XI Board Members: Recruitment,
Retention, Training, etc.
· This was something that was discussed at the retreat.
· It has been submitted with the request that an ad-hoc committee
be formed to take on recruitment, retention, and training.
o We discussed this at BDC and thought it was a great idea.
o We had discussed having ex-board members serve on this committee, but
I do wonder if there are enough to fill out the committee.
· This may be a good time to bring up a training called CBLD.
o They are looking at April as a possible date for this training. Some
of the focuses of their training are these exact concerns.
o This would be excellent timing as it coincides with our elections.
o We could then make this training one of the mandatory commitments of
any new board member.
· My first question is, at exec, we wondered whether BDC has the
time to take on this training / retention role.
o Currently, there are a couple of sessions conducted by Judy.
o After talking with Judy, we though it might be good to break these trainings
into one dealing with basic procedures and another on policy governance.
· The thought of CBLD is that we would not just go for one year,
but would make this a yearly training.
o There are tracks that different board members would fall into, some
introductory, some more advanced.
· It had been proposed that BDC take on these issues. I don't want
to be saddling them with work that they may not be able to handle at this
time.
· I would like to propose that we keep this on a more local level,
relying on Marcia and Judy to conduct trainings.
o It may be beneficial to open up this training to potential board members.
I'm not sure how feasible this would be.
o I would also like to propose that we commit some of our time after our
service on the board to help with the training of new board members.
· At BDC, we are now into the election cycle. We were never able
to get into the retention and training aspects.
o Training is great, but its worthless if we cannot hold on to our members.
Retention should be a primary focus.
o I feel that retention has not been a problem this time around. Also,
I think that policy governance training could be beneficial, but it really
doesn't become relevant until you delve into your own policies.
· I had talked to Judy about changing the wording of our advertisement
in the Thymes. She thought it would be a bad idea to play up the excitement
of board work because it is drudgery. If this is the perception of being
on the board, perhaps we need to fix the image of the board.
· I think this whole retention / training issue was brought up
so that the board would identify some sort of action.
· I am still not clear on retention.
o It seems that there is always a cycle of elections. There may be too
much invested in candidates that will not be elected.
· The question is where do we go from here.
o In terms of retention, it will always be a balance. You are weighing
your time. I think that if you feel like you are making progress, begin
an effective member, that you are likely to value the board experience
more highly.
o Effective training, that makes the board more effective, might also
take care of retention issues.
· Retention never seemed to be a problem until we started our growth.
o Going through consecutive growth periods burned people out.
· Is an ad-hoc committee a possibility at this point?
o It may be difficult to even assemble a list of people to serve on this
committee.
o I (Michele) could come up with a list.
· In determining a charter, we should look at the cycle of being
a board member. We can determine where the weaknesses are and have the
ad-hoc committee focus there.
o I think we should make sure that we don't spend a lot of time on something
that the board is not even that interested in. In the evaluation process,
the board always seems disinterested.
o I think this is because we felt like there was nowhere to go once the
evaluation is finished.
· Michele will provide a list of names to Fred that can be used
to form an ad-hoc committee. This committee will investigate the cycle
of being a board member, from recruitment to training to retention, identify
the weaknesses and then try to improve these areas.
o Something this committee should look into is the investment of ex-board
members' time. Should there be a compulsory effort by ex-members to recruit
new members?
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XII Policy Governance Chair and
Deadlines for End Statements
· Between the executive committee and now, I posed the question
to Todd and Liz, of who would like to chair the committee.
o It makes sense for Todd to chair the committee until his departure and
then be replaced by Liz.
· One of the first goals is to develop end statements.
o I feel that this may beyond the ability of the committee at this time.
We need to discuss policy governance as a committee and figure out where
we are and where we need to be.
o We should evaluate the end statements in terms of their functionality.
· We will setup an initial meeting time so that we can discuss
the end statements.
o I'm beginning to get a better understanding of where these statements
fit into the larger picture. If we take time to discuss this, we will
be able to better address the ends.
· Would it be reasonable to come back from this meeting with some
idea of how the ends will be addressed?
o This first meeting will probably be spent sorting out housekeeping items,
like future meeting times.
o I don't expect the committee to come back with deadlines, but at least
some idea of an approach to policy governance and how the Ends statements
will be dealt with.
· We will need an agenda item, confirming committee members and
who the chair will be. It can usually go on consent.
o Perhaps the committee can submit this motion for the next meeting.
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XIII Review Draft of ORC Growth
Flyer
· One thing that struck me as possibly confusing, was the debt
ratio - need help!
o This actually means that they didn't know what to put here and want
help.
· This was marketing's take on the flyer. It has not been reviewed
by ORC.
o I feel that the aesthetics of this flyer do not begin to approach the
seriousness of the issue at hand.
o It is cluttered. The graphics seem a little less than serious. Perhaps
a little too casual for a serious document.
o I feel that it actually does include a great amount of information,
including ways, as an owner, to make yourself heard.
· I am wondering how we can get our concerns to ORC.
o You can submit them to either Todd or Esther.
· I also feel that this should take on more of the feel of a annual
report. It seems a little too much like a sales flyer.
· I had a problem with the sequence of the document. I couldn't
navigate from panel to panel.
· I agree that the graphics are a bit goofy, but the language is
very good. It deals with the seriousness of an issue that may potentially
be emotional quite effectively.
· Aesthetics are the least of my concerns. I think that we are
creating a reaction to something that has not even been decided.
· When would this be mailed out? After growth is going to happen?
o I thought this was to prepare owners that growth will probably have
to happen. It shows that the north store is bursting at the seams. My
understanding was that this is to educate owners as to why we would make
a sudden move if it presented itself.
o The idea originally was to move quickly with this but perhaps we should
take a little more time preparing this flyer.
· Keep in mind that this is only one avenue for presenting this
information.
o The proper choice of words could make all the difference here. There
are easy ways to make difficult statements.
· I have a question about the address panel. It says that the board
has unanimously agreed on the possibility of growth. When did this happen?
o We agreed to continue moving forward with the process.
· My comment is that this doesn't educate. There is nothing in
here about the problems we are facing. This only brings up solutions.
There should be more focus on why this growth needs to occur.
· The ORC committee will take this feedback to their December meeting.
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Executive Session Begins: 8:37
Executive Session Ends: 9:00
Meeting is adjourned: 9:00 |